However, an interesting thing happened when he was lecturing while sitting flanked by PDIP Secretary General Hasto Kristiyanto and Puan Maharani.
When delivering a lecture, Cak Nun indirectly seemed to be roasting President Jokowi.
"Indonesia is an unrivaled nation," he said at the Sinau Together Cak Nun and Kiai Kanjeng event, Nationality and Statehood on Sunday, April 10, 2022.
"If Indonesia has 18 levels of historical awareness, Bung Karno said 'Jas Merah', and we remember that from then on to 18 generations," added Cak Nun.
He then challenged the superpowers such as the United States and Russia not to be complacent about their power.
"O America, O Russia, O all so-called strong and superpower countries, don't think you are really in power because we are a nation with a civilization that has a time scale of 18 generations," said Cak Nun.
He added that it made Indonesia have knowledge and management far beyond the US and Russia.
"So our knowledge, our management, will far exceed all of you. The matter is that the president is not yet precise," said Cak Nun.
After saying these words, he asked the PDIP cadres who were present at the time not to be angry.
"Don't be angry, I'm not saying it's wrong or bad, it's just not precise yet," said Cak Nun.
After that, he reiterated that what he said was not a form of criticism of Jokowi.
"I'm sorry, I'm not criticizing, but I'm really curious about the greatness of Indonesia that we can't achieve," said Cak Nun.
"And I want tomorrow morning before and after 2024, we will experience a big revolution from within us," he added.